November 12, 2002
i'm a merriam webster man myself

Article in the Times about the new and improved Shorter Oxford English Dictionary . Don't know if it's good press to admit you got a phrase from the show Friends, though:

"Asked for a personal favorite from the new phrases, Mr. Stevenson cited "go commando," which the dictionary says means to go out wearing no underwear. "We got it from the TV series 'Friends.'"

Posted by elia at November 12, 2002 02:24 PM
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Maybe there is something to that whole liberal media elite conspiracy the right kvetches about. i mean, sitcom writers are controling our fucking vocabularies!

Language is Power. Except when there's a gun involved.

Posted by: Kio on November 12, 2002 02:54 PM

Mining certain vocabularies for short term gain, but inadvertantly (or not) solidifying them into the larger lexicon of American prime time tv viewership.

I dunno. Either some college grad sitcom writer or a stodgy, out-of-touch tribunal like the French have? Which would you prefer?

Posted by: tmonkey on November 12, 2002 04:40 PM

You need to turn your irony detector up a few notches, honey.

Posted by: Kio on November 12, 2002 04:45 PM

I am reminded of those moments when you come across a late-60s coinage, or something from WWII, that has made it in between the hallowed covers of Webster's 10th, and you can feel the exact moment in time when the word meant something, and its current and seemingly premature obsolescence. I am now searching or an example, but my dictionary's not arranged by coinage date...

Posted by: dbrown on November 12, 2002 05:01 PM

Irony's over, honeybuns. Haven't you heard?

Posted by: tmonkey on November 12, 2002 05:02 PM

Irony is never over, cupcake.

Posted by: Kio on November 12, 2002 05:06 PM

here: (not necessarily in Web; found on google)
"Global Village" (1967, McLuhan)
aerobics 1968
"executive nanny" 1968
black hole (1968? 1967?)
bio-informatics 1968
soundscape 1968
ageism 1968
counterculture 1968
différance 1968
Silicon Valley 1971
bioethics 1971
punk 1971

genocide 1943/44
"he shoots! he scores!" 1943, I shit you not
futurology 1943
"Foo Fighter" [ww ii, no specific date]
pinup [ditto]
FUBAR [ditto]
conscientious objector [ditto]

all these via pages found thru google so you know half are wrong or half-wrong

Posted by: dbrown on November 12, 2002 05:14 PM

my irony's set to stun.
kio's, obviously, to kill.

Posted by: dbrown on November 12, 2002 05:16 PM

Oh come on, what's a day without a little harmless bickering?

Also, re: David's list, does everybody know about www.wordspy.com? It's good.

Posted by: Kio on November 12, 2002 05:21 PM

dbrown, you mean like "dialing for dollars"?

ok, kio, yes, sweet pea, my irony detector has been on the fritz lately. i think it was ever since dbrown left the office with nary a writer in the vicinity. irony may never be over, but it sure can get durn tiring for us simple folk.

Posted by: tmonkey on November 12, 2002 05:23 PM

Ok pumpkin, let's call it a truce for today.

Posted by: Kio on November 12, 2002 05:27 PM

k.

note to self: learn to distinguish between devil's advocacy and irony.

Posted by: tmonkey on November 12, 2002 05:39 PM
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