May 19, 2003
who's haas?

saturation owes its existence, in part, to this issue of Wired. So let us pay tribute, by quoting. "They don't hate the way we cook; they hate the way we behave. So I can't take any responsibility for any of that. All I can do is help everybody, everywhere, live a little better."

Posted by dbrown at May 19, 2003 10:04 PM

Did anybody catch any of Martha Inc. the made-for-TV schlock-u-drama on NBC last night? I actually felt sorry for her for about one second.

Posted by: tmonkey on May 20, 2003 11:36 AM

Did any of your stuff make it in David (aka Rem's Hiddden Treasure)?

Posted by: krobinson on May 20, 2003 01:06 PM

I was there when Martha called Rem back. But my presence, thankfully, is not notable or noticeable. Get me Muccia Prada on the horn!

tmonkey's represented, though. (But the picture's not on-line.)

oh, wait I just see that someone's bemoaning ad clutter. That's so 1999!

Posted by: dbrown on May 20, 2003 02:28 PM

Only because dbrown declined the Color Spectrum graph. I'm on the JV list.

BTW, what did people make of the epilogue to Delirious New York? I thought it was the best thing in the magazine.

Posted by: tmonkey on May 20, 2003 02:38 PM

I'm not sure it (the postscript) is good; on first read it feels cursory, late, and a little peevish (the jabs at Liebskind). We waited 25 years for this? (I mean, we didn't, but still.)

The ponderousness of RK's words echoes his sentiment that New York is over. Which makes me think that there was no possible outcome (this essay and its tone) of his effort other than this one. (Like Bechtel in Iraq.)

And maybe that's the "takeaway"; it's not that NYC isn't interesting (we all know that it is); it's that it no longer interests Rem Koolhaas. It's clear that his heart warms to convulsive periods, in New York in the 20s/30s, but also now in China, in the 1980s in Lille. It is not the city but its rapid transformation that is attractive. Pruitt-Igoe, anyone?

Posted by: dbrown on May 20, 2003 04:34 PM

christ -- i am so outclassed by this conversation. Pruitt-Igoe?


Posted by: phrisky on May 21, 2003 10:15 AM

I'm being flippant with the Pruitt-Igoe allusion, but maybe not completely. A brief history (more positive than not), and pictures. Pruitt-Igoe (designed by Yamasaki, whose other major work, the WTC, is also gone) is a symbol of different things for different people; for most, it's about the failure of 1950s/60s urban planning. But that failure is really the failure of a large-scale architecture/planning practice based on radical change. etc. more later, if you're interested

Posted by: dbrown on May 21, 2003 10:49 AM

also, further proof. quote from RK in SMLXL: "Atlanta's is a convulsive architecture that will eventually acquire beauty."

Posted by: dbrown on May 21, 2003 10:49 AM

I thought for RK (Rem Koolhaas, not R. Kelly) the beauty was the convulsion, brutality as an aesthetic goal. Which is why New York is so last year.

Posted by: tmonkey on May 21, 2003 11:35 AM
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