July 15, 2003
What is a "dumbed-down intelligence product"?

The way the spooks (who manufacture the stuff) talk about "intelligence" makes it sound like it's oil. They mine it, refine it, and process it for the likes of Cheney, Condi, Tenet, and Powell, who then bottle it up for Curious George. But it sounds like there's another layer (the neo-cons, hard-liners, what have you) that seems to be putting out its own brew. Curiouser and curiouser...

Posted by tmonkey at July 15, 2003 01:16 PM

Less like oil, to me, and more like heroin - all the different dealers cutting up the facts, some more pure, some less, selling their own brand names like Harlem in the 70s:

Tru Blu, Mean Machine, Could Be Fatal, Dick Down, Boody, Cooley High, Capone, Ding Dong, Fuck Me, Fuck You, Nice, Nice to Be Nice, Oh -- Can't Get Enough of That Funky Stuff, Tragic Magic, Gerber, The Judge, 32, 32-20, O.D., Correct, Official Correct, Past Due, Payback, Revenge, Green Tape, Red Tape, Rush, Swear to God, PraisePraisePraise, KillKillKill, Killer 1, Killer 2, KKK, Good Pussy, Taster's Choice, Harlem Hijack, Joint, Insured for Life, Insured for Death, Blue Magic...

(OK, so I just wanted to post cool heroin names from the 70s - but will any of this "yellow cake-gate" stick to W?)

Posted by: elia on July 15, 2003 02:59 PM

yes, it will stick, but it's not clear how much. His polls are tanking, even among older, conservative voters. And it's unclear how he can resurrect his "reputation." All indications are that it will get worse for his administration -- I mean, Rice and Powell and Cheney are sitting ducks right now, since Tenet's fall on his sword came way too early to defuse all the fallout. To mix my munition metaphors. Unless they find a functioning nuclear bomb in Saddam's secret bunker...

Going to war with North Korea would help, too.

Posted by: dbrown on July 15, 2003 03:47 PM

When was the last time you sympathized with a CIA director?

Anyways, I think even going to war with North Korea (wag the cat, wag the bbq dog ... oh, the possibilities are endless) will be too scary for them now. I mean, every single move and "justification" for doing so will now be heavily scrutinized. And plus, North Korea ain't no Iraq. That, and I'm not so sure our armed forces will be so psyched anymore to have a trigger-happy commander-in-chief -- with Afghanistan, Iraq, maybe Liberia, their plates are full. And the rest of America is, as the polls are showing, weary of war. We can't afford it.

Can we now say that, after all the yellow cake and aluminum tubing hubub, that our policy of pre-emption is officially over? (or at least now officially a really bad idea?)

Posted by: tmonkey on July 15, 2003 04:57 PM

We can say that, but we said that before it all began. And I'd bet money that none of the principals involved -- from Wolfowitz to Rove to Rummy -- will ever admit to being wrong. As Eleanor Clift notes in Newsweek online.

Posted by: dbrown on July 15, 2003 06:29 PM

I really meant, can we as a nation of red states (and a coalition of the reluctant blue) have some humility and admit that this whole thing, this whole administration (haha, I like the Accidental President) was a bad idea?

The scary thing is, you're right, they have the righteousness of evangelical Christians and the infallibility of the Pope.

And about that neocon layer I was suggesting earlier, Eric Boehlert over at Salon suggests that Rummy has his very own personal spy network. Did it come with a secret decoder ring, I wonder?

Posted by: tmonkey on July 16, 2003 12:02 AM
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